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Goi y: Cac van de gap phai trong viec hien thi tieng Viet, go tieng Viet, trao doi file, in an, thư tin...khi su dung font Unicode.

* Su dung Unicode can biet
* Unicode va chuan tieng Viet
* Tieng Viet va bo ma Unicode
* Unicode cho chu Viet
* Unicode trong việc Việt hoá Linux
* Go tieng Viet trong Windows 2000
* Su dung Vietnamese Unicode trong Windows 9x

* Unicode Transformation Formats
* Font Unicode
tieng Viet

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HOI: giaduongsteven@yahoo.com
EM co thac mac nhu sau: khi em nhan thu cua BQT thi nhung thu nao co chua Unicode thi em doc duoc va em goi mail cho cac nguoi ban thi ho van doc duoc binh thuong. Nhung Khi em goi thu len BQT (Mac du duoi dang Plain Text) tri va go bang Unicode thi thu luon bi tra lai va bao la khong doc duoc. Xin cac anh chi chi cho em biet cach khac phuc.

DAP:
Do cac ban da chon cach ma hoa sai. Neu cac ban su dung OE 5.x, hay vao Tools/ Options/ Send/ Plain Text Settings, danh dau chon MIME va Encode text using: NONE.
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From: khz@iprimus.com.au
Unicode la mot chuan quoc te, khong phai cua rieng Microsoft ma bao gom nhieu to chuc noi tieng tao ra. Minh doc va viet mail bang unicode rat de dang, khong gap vuong mac gi. Ngay ca khi gap cac mail khong phai unicode viet bang cac font .vntime va VNI-Time.
O day minh xin trinh bay cach minh cau hinh trong OE 5.5 de tien su dung khi viet mail bang unicode va hoan chuyen font khi doc mail:
* Ban chon menu Tools - Option. Click tab Read, click Fonts.
* o hop thoai Fonts, chon Unicode trong danh sach (Font settings), chon font Tahoma o "Proportional font" (hoac font Unicode nao ban co), trong box "Encoding" chon Unicode (UTF-8), click "Set as Default" .
* Tiep theo chon Vietnamese trong danh sach, o "Proportional font" chon font ".vntime" . ( neu khong co item Vietnamese co the chon "Western European").
* Tiep tuc chon "User define" trong danh sach, chon font VNI-Times trong "Proportional font". Click OK tro ve hop thoai Option.
* Click tab "Send", click "International settings...". Trong box "Default encoding", chon "Unicode (UTF-8)". Click OK.
* Click tab "Compose". Trong section "Compose font", phan mail, click "Font Settings...", chon 1 font unicode trong hop thoai font (Tahoma, Times New Roman, Arial...). Click OK.
* Click OK thoat khoi hop thoai Option.
Sau nay co the hoan chuyen qua cac font bang cach: khi da mo 1 mail, click menu View - Encoding, neu mail viet bang font unicode thi chon "Unicode (UTF-8)", viet bang font .vntime thi chon "Vietnamese", viet bang font VNI-Times thi chon "User Define".
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HOI: ngquyen@saigonnet.vn
 Chao cac ban.  Hien toi da co mot so font Unicode nhu Times New Roman, Verdana, Arial nhung  khi nhan thu cac ban gui ve bang trinh Eudora thi khong doc duoc chu Viet,  tham chi co Coppy sang Word de xem nhung van khong xem duoc, vay bay gio toi  phai lam gi de xem duoc cac la thu ma cac ban viet bang Unicode. Xin cam on.

DAP: tran@namhung.org
   Toi xa`i Eudora va` van xem duoc font Unicode thoi. (Tat nhien truoc tien ba.n pha?I download font Unicode ve ma'y cua ban , install va`o day du? ) Ca'ch la`m nhu* sau:
  Tool > Option  - Category > Fonts
   O*?  message:
                Proportional: Cho.n Font Unicode ban da co' : vidu Arial
    O*? Printer  (de ma'y in hieu duoc )
                 Font : Cho.n Font Unicode ban da co'
    O*? Screen (xem duoc o che do^. Preview Pane)
                 Font : Cho.n Font Unicode ban da~ co'
Vi` thay nhieu nguoi no'i Eudora khong biet Unicode Fonts. Nhung toi thay Eudora cua toi (ban chua dang ky' van xem duoc - tuy nhien van co' va`i thu* khong hien thi. het ca'c dau ) Mong moi nguoi thu xem co' duoc khong nhe' Chu'c tha`nh cong.
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From: kpham2@erols.com
Xin chao cac ban,
Toi dang dung win95, IE 5.0, Outlook97, Vietkey, va xu dung Unicode (UTF-8) rat tot, chang sao ca. Toi rat thich web page cua anh Le Hoan. Toi cho rang Unicode da tang tinh tham my/tien dung cua trang web len rat nhieu.
Hoc dung Unicode cung co vai kho khan buoc dau giong nhu khi xua phai hoc cac bo phong chu ABC, VNI.. Khi quen roi thi se thich vi thay cai hay cua no. Khong nen tro lai dung VIQR, vi nhu vay la giong nhu di thut lui thoi. 
Neu co kho khan khi trao doi thi co the dung tieng Viet khong dau, ngoai ra nen co gang dung Unicode. Bang moi cach, chung ta nen no luc va khuyen khich nhau dung Unicode.
Ly do:  Unicode la chuan ma toan the gioi dang huong toi, la no luc rat quan trong de giai quyet nhieu van de ma cac quoc gia khong noi tieng Anh (non-English speaking coutries) gap phai trong khi xu dung, thiet ke va phat trien phan mem bang ngon ngu dia phuong cua minh. Khong phai chi minh VN, ma ca Nhat, Tau, Korean, A Rap...deu dang chuyen tiep sang Unicode de co the nhanh chong theo kip cac quoc gia noi tieng Anh, nhat la My, ve mat phat trien phan mem. Tien loi/bat tien cua Unicode khong chi gioi han o trong chuyen trao doi email va xem Internet.
De biet tam quan trong cua Unicode nhu the nao, chi can luu y rang Java, ngon ngu lap trinh dang phat trien nhanh nhat tren the gioi, dung Unicode (UTF-16) lam can ban cho toan bo cac buoc lap trinh. Va cung khong phai khong co ly do khi tat ca cac system nhu Win98SE, Win Me, Win2000., Oracle...deu ho tro Unicode (Win95/98 van ho tro Unicode,chi la khong co cai dat san cac fonts Unicode thoi).
Trong thoi gian qua, nguoi Viet va cac dan toc hay than phien rang cac phan mem vi tinh chi thuan tuy chu trong tieng Anh ma thoi, con nhu cau cua nguoi khong noi tieng Anh thi it ai noi den.
Dieu do dang thay doi nhanh chong, cac nha soan phan mem da biet lang nghe va nhiet tinh dap ung nhu cau cua chung ta bang su ra doi cua Unicode. Con gi dang mung hon.
Tuy nhien, cung co mot so kho khan buoc dau. Vi du nhu in an cac tap tin viet bang Unicode.  Tam thoi co the chuyen tap tin qua cac phong chu khac (dung Vietkey hay Vietspell) de in  neu hoan toan khong in duoc.
Uni la tat cua chu Universal (chung, thong nhat, khong phan biet). Dieu nay noi ro tinh 'toan cau' cua Unicode.
UTF-8 khong phai la Unicode 'thu thiet', tuy nhien hien thoi moi nguoi dang dung Unicode UTF-8 la de tuong thich voi cac system va programs cu.
Toi dang dung win95: nen download/install cang nhieu Unicode fonts cang tot de tranh rac roi ve sau.  Unicode fonts: Times New Roman, Arial, Tahoma, Verdana, Courier New, vao http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack (font files nho?, tai xuong rat nhanh), hay vao web page cua Le Hoan. Khong nen cai dat chi mot font.
Ban nao muon biet them cac chi tiet ky thuat ve Unicode UTF-8 va Unicode UTF-16 co the email cho toi. Toi da suu tap duoc rat nhieu tai lieu ve Unicode (tieng Anh).
Han hanh,
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HOI: quocviet0303@hcmc.netnam.vn 
Co ban nao biet lam sao ta co the in duoc font Unicode, toi in ra toan ma. Why

DAP: tkiet@newworldvietnam.com 
Tui cung bi nua, toi xai win 98SE voi OE 5, unicode doc thi vo tu nhung khi in thi ra giun khong ha. Truoc day hinh nhu co ban cho rang chi may in doi moi co nhu HP 1100 moi ho tro unicode nhung toi da thu in bang Deskjet 895C va HP 2100 cung van bi lang quang. Hien gio danh phai xoay so bang cach copy ra word roi in thi duoc, nhan day xin gop them mot kinh nghiem la thuong thi it ai chon cac font unicode nhu Arial hay Times ... lam font default trong word nen luc paste sang word, ban chiu kho dung xai shortcut Ctrl-V ma mo Edit - Paste special ..., chon unformatted text. Doan van ban ban chep vao word se giu nguyen font, khoi mat cong doi lai. Ke ra thi mat cong that, nhung biet lam sao.

DAP2: hoangletam@hotmail.com
Co' the^? thu+? ca'c ca'ch sau dda^y:
(1) Cho ca'c ma'y in LaserJet (HP): cho.n "Print Text as Graphics" File --> Print --> Properties --> Settings --> "Print Text as Graphics" 
(2) Hoa(.c: Ca`i Netscape 4.7 hoa(.c 7x, va` thu+? in ra xem sao . Chu'c tha`nh co^ng.
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HOI: swatch@hcm.vnn.vn
Chao tat ca cac ban.Cho minh hoi hoi nhieu mot ti.Unicode theo minh khong phai la mot font ma no la cai gi that su thi minh khong biet noi the nao,chi biet la no khong phai la font thoi.Cai hop thu nay phuc tap qua.Tui gui toi 3 cai mail hoi co moi mot chuyen thoi ma bi tra lai het 3 lan. Ly do khong doc duoc Tieng Viet.The co ai chi thiet ro cho minh cach go Unicode trong OE5.5 khong.Xin da ta nhieu.Tui da vao trang cua LH doc ma hinh nhung khong dung trong tam lam nen cuoi cung cung mu luon.

DAP: namhaix7@hcm.vnn.vn
Unicode no chinh la font day. Khi ban cai winME, hay Win 2000... hay Officce 2000 thi no co san bo font Unicode trong do. No gom cac font : Arial, Tahoma, Courrier New, Times New Roman.....Neu ban dung font nay thi ban khong can phai phai cai them font tieng Viet. Ban co the go tieng viet bat cu noi dau ke ca khi dat ten file trong Word hay Ecxel. Tuy nhien do no con moi nen nhieu nguoi khong quen nen de gay ngo nhan khong tot ve no. De dung no can co bo go ho tro Unicode nhu : Vietkey2000 hay VietSpell.
Khi viet thu trong OE chon tren menubar : Format\Encoding\more...\Unicode(UTF-8).
Khi doc thu, thuong nguoi dung mac dinh la font TCVN nen muon doc duoc font Unicode can phai dinh dang lai.: Click right Mouse trong Thu, Chon Select All ( toan bo noi dung thu da duoc danh dau ). Sau do chon tren menubar: View\Encoding\more...\Unicode(UTF-8).
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From: temely@yahoo.com
Toi nhan thay viec thong nhat su dung font unicode trong cac trang web Vn va cac email, that tien loi. Font chu Unicode cung rat dep mat. Hien thi ro rang tren IE 5.5, khong bi mat chu. Duy nhat co 1 dieu toi thay lam la, la khi dung vietkey go unicode, khong the hoan chuyen duoc trong WORD khi dung cac phan mem nhu VPSKEYS, VIETSPELL. Moi lan hoan chuyen (thi du tu unicode go bang VIETKEY ra TCVN 3) thuong bi loi va hien ra nhung dau o vuong, that ky la. Neu dung VPSKEYS 4.1 de go font unicode, thi hoan chuyen bang VIETSPELL hoan toan khong co loi gi ca. Hien gio toi con nhieu bai viet bang font unicode, go bang VIETKEY cua nguoi ban gui toi, ma khong hoan chuyen (convert) duoc. Co ai bi giong toi khong vay. Hoac la co cach gi khac phuc khong ? Cam on truoc rat nhieu !
Minh@
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From: lephuoch@yahoo.com
Chao quy vi,
Toi co doc luot qua trang trao doi y kien ve Vietnam Unicode va thay co nguoi noi den mot vai bat tien cua viec su dung no ( Vn Unicode). Toi lay lam la. Ky that, tu khi Trang Nha cua anh Le Hoan va anh Pham Hong Phuoc chuyen qua Vietnam Unicode, toi cam thay rat thoai mai de luot mang. Va khong he gap tro ngai gi ve viec doc chuo Viet. Va cung duong nhu van de truy cap xem ra nhanh hon(?).
Van de cai phong Vn Unicode, toi cung khong can phai tai, khong phai cai dat rieng le. Boi vi toi su dung Win Me. Toi cung co cai MSO 2000. That la tien dung.
Chi duy nhat mot van nan ma toi khong biet phai giai quyet ra sao, hoac gia phai nho den ai hay mot phan mem nao do de duoc giup do. do la viec in an nhung trang luoi duoc su dung Vn Unicode. Toi co thu su dung MSO 2000, nhuong van khong duoc binh thuong. Co ai, biet duoc huong giai quyet in an nhung trang su dung phong VN Unicode xin chi giao gium. Toi xin ta on nhieu.
Tren day la vai y kien tho thien xin chia xe cung quy vi. Neu co gi that tho, xin quy vi tha loi cho. Chuc quy vi duoc moi su nhu y,
Kinh chao, Ybuon

DAP: tkthoa@hcmueco.edu.vn
Toi cung gap truong hop in in kho khan nhu anh. Sau nay toi moi phat hien ra hinh nhu cac may in the he cu in tai lieu voi font Uni khong tot. Neu anh in in bang cac may in doi moi thi chac khong co van de gi. Than
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From: hoangletam@hotmail.com
Unicode & Outlook Express
To^i du`ng pha^`n me^`m VPSKEYS 4.1 dde^? go~ da^'u Vie^.t vo+'i nhie^`u da.ng ma~ kha'c nhau . To^i du`ng Outlook Express 5.5 dde^? gu+?i va` nha^.n thu+ .
Dde^? gu+?i va` nha^.n thu+ chu+~ Vie^.t vo+'i Unicode font, to^i chi? ddi.nh ca'ch sa('p dda(.t nhu+ sau trong Outlook Express:
1) View - Encoding - Unicode (UTF-8)
2) Tools - Options - Ro^`i cho.n:
2a) Read - Font - Proportional Font: Arial ; Fixed-Width Font: Courier New
2b) Read - Encoding Unicode (UTF-8)
2c) Read - International Readings: dde^? tra('ng (kho^ng cho.n Defalut Encoding)

3) Tools - Options - Send
3a) International Settings - Unicode (UTF-8)
3b) Mail Sending Formats: Plain Text
3c) News Sending Format: Plain Text
Tha^n a'i,
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From: lyanh@post.com
Co le dieu bat loi lon nhat khi dung Unicode trong trang web la: khong the dung Macromedia Dreamweaver vi phan mem nay khong ho tro Unicode (ngay ca version 3). (Toi da dung Vietkey khong thanh cong trong DW).
Neu ban la nguoi thiet ke trang Web co kinh nghiem thi chac ban se dong y voi toi la khong bao gio nen dung FrontPage. Dreamweaver la Number One! Vay thi ban co cach nao dung Unicode trong DW khong??
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From: trungdung@tlnet.com.vn
Toi su dung HDH Win 98, nhu vay la da co ho tro ma font Unicode. Vay ma khi dung Front Page 98 thi khong the go tieng Viet. (Toi su dung Vietspell2000).
Giai phap cua toi la mo OE ra, tao mot thu moi roi go van ban. Sau do moi copy van ban nay dan vao Front Page 98. Tuy nhien, neu chi nhu vay thi tieng Viet van khong hien thi. Phai co them tag <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> o phan dau tai lieu HTML. Mac du vay, tieng Viet cung chi hien thi khi xem trang Web o che do Preview ma thoi hoac la xem bang trinh duyet IE. Con o che do Normal thi cac thanh dau va mu khong hien duoc.

DAP:
Windows 9x khong co san font Unicode di kem , ban phai cai IE 5.0 tro len moi co duoc 1 font Unicode tieng Viet la Verdana, neu cai Office 2000 thi co them Tahoma.
Trong Frontpage neu muon xem duoc tieng Viet Unicode khi go ban can cai them cac font khac nhu Arial, Times New Roman...hoac khi soan thao phai danh dau van ban roi chon font la ten font Unicode.
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From: nnbinh@lacviet.com.vn
Toi xin co y kien ve Font Unicode va chuong trinh VietKey 2000.
- Font unicode duoc dua ra la de ho tro multi-Language. Thong tin cua text se kem theo thong tin cua Language code (vi du Vietnamese la 1258, English US la 1252 ...). Khi viet keyboard driver phai chu y den Language code.
- Chuong trinh Vietkey 2000 co phan go tieng viet Unicode, nhung tac gia khong tuan theo cac qui tac co ban, ma chi don thuan map cac ky tu dac biet cua tieng viet den nhung vi tri "co dang tuong ung trong font Unicode", hoan toan khong co thong tin ve Language code. Nhu vay mac du phan hien thi cac ky tu len man hinh la dung, nhung thuc ra khi dung Vietkey 2000 de nhap lieu vao cac database multi-Language thi hoan toan sai. Mot vi du don gian ma cac ban co the kiem tra la : Dung VK 2000 nhap lieu vao Access 2000 roi copy - paste sang wordpad thi cac ki tu co dau cua tieng viet se tro thanh "?".
Nguyen Ngoc Binh

DAP1:
Ban khong nen paste van ban Unicode tieng Viet (du go bang bat ky chuong trinh go nao) vao Wordpad cua Windows 9x/NT vi chuong trinh nay khong ho tro Unicode. Neu Wordpad cua Windows 2000 thi duoc.

DAP2: support@az.com.vn
Minh nghi rang ban "nnbinh" chua chu y lam ve Language Code. Neu ban tao ra mot tap tin bang Notepad, sau do save Unicode UTF-8 xuong dia, va mo rang xem bang NC (DOS), ban se thay co 3 ky tu xac dinh language code nam ngay dau file. Chinh vi dieu nay da lam cho mot so lap trinh vien thay kho khan khi thao tac voi UNICODE files.
That chat ma to hop cua VK2000 la hoan toan chinh xac theo dinh nghia chuan cua Microsoft danh cho tieng Viet chu khong phai la mot hinh thuc ghep dau tieng viet nhu ban da de cap.
Trong Knowlegdge Base cua Microsoft co ghi ro: Neu ban copy/paste mot doan text Unicode sang mot ung dung hoac mot WinControl khong ho tro Unicode thi Windows se tu dong chuyen cac ky du dau (accents) sang cac ky tu hinh tuong tuong ung. Ban co the tham khao nhieu ve van de nay trong MSDN.
Lan truoc minh co de cap ve file BCH UNICODE UTF-8 danh cho chuong trinh AnyToAny trong bo VNI Tan Ky 4.0.
De nhan duoc tap tin nay, ban hay goi email den dia chi: mdaemon@az.com.vn 
Trong phan noi dung ghi dong: GET UNICODE-UTF8-BCH
Khi nhan duoc file nay, ban hay chep vao trong thu muc C:\VNI Neu chuyen ma file .html, ban phai xac dinh encoding = "utf-8" truoc khi chuyen doi ma tieng viet.
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
Va nho la chi nen mo mo tin .HTML nay bang FrontPage 2000.
Doi voi file TEXT, ban can phai them 3 ky tu ngay dau tap tin sau khi da chuyen ma tieng viet. Ban co the them bang chuong trinh NC hoac EDIT.
Doi voi NC, ban giu phim ALT+[nhom so] va lan luot nhap cac ky tu dac biet nhu sau: 
239 187 191
Chuc thanh cong.

DAP3: minh_van@tlnet.com.vn
Khong phai vay, WordPad cua Win98 van ho tro Unicode tieng Viet, tuy nhien VK2000 khong phai chon dai cac ky tu tieng Viet nhu ban nghi dau. Unicode khi duoc qui dinh da co gang cang it trung lap ky tu cang tot, khong co chuyen 2 ky tu giong giong nhau dau. Hon nua, neu dung nhu ban noi thi khi paste, cac ky tu cung khong the ra khac di duoc boi vi cung mot font nhu nhau. So di cac ky tu khi paste ra dau ? la do WordPad cua ban khong nhan dang duoc chuoi Unicode duoc luu trong clipboard, nen paste theo dinh dang Text, nhung ky tu co ma >256 deu thay bang dau '?'. Ly do co the la ban dang xai Win95. Neu ban thu go Unicode bang VK2000 trong WordPad hay chep tu Word sang van duoc thi co the la do cach MSAccess chep len clipboard.

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HOI: quangyt@yahoo.com
Toi dung win98, vietkey2000, outlook4., toi da cai font unicode. Ban dau dung rat tot.Nhung bay gio thi chi co the go tieng viet font Arial, Times New Roman,.... duoc, con khi goi thu thi mat tieng viet ngay, ca khi nhan va doc thu cung khong hien duoc tieng viet. Toi da chinh trong option/read/font nhieu lan ma khong duoc. Xin cac ban chi giup, cam on nhieu.

DAP: haihau@hn.vnn.vn
Neu ban gui mail unicode theo dang Plain text roi lai chon SEND AS IS thi mat tieng viet ngay, ban phai chon SEND AS UNICODE. Con gui dang Rich text thi chon Send as unicode hay send as is deu duoc. Con muon doc unicode tot nhat la nang cap len OE5.x
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From: haihau@hn.vnn.vn
- Tui da download VPSKey ve chay thu de go unicode nhung hinh nhu no khong go duoc kieu telex (khong go dau vao cuoi tu duoc ma phai go ngay sau ki tu chua duu). Vi vay van khoai Vietkey hon.
- Neu cac ban goi mail unicode theo dang Plain text nhu trong hop thu thi bat buoc phai chon SEND AS UNICODE neu muon nguoi khac doc duoc con neu goi cho ban be thi nen gui theo dạng Rich text sau do chon SEND AS IS thi nguoi nhan doc de dang hon.
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From: thuongem5phut@hotmail.com
Toi co vai thac mac nhu sau:
VPS & Vietkey:
- toi sai tieng viet co le khac voi cac ban Viet Nam trong behavior 1 it vi song o USA, cho nen trong essay co rat nhieu tieng anh lan tieng viet! toi co thu sai ca hai nhung van thay thich VPS hon vi toi co the assign dau tuy thich. day co le la diem chinh toi thich VPS hon vietkey. Vietkey trai lai co nhieu uu diem khac nhung co le khong nam trong nhu cau cua toi. both VPS va Vietkey co che do chuyen phim nhung sai VPS toi it chuyen phim hon dau toi sai English.
- VPS cung co unicode font, toi khong ro lam ve unicode nhung toi dung Vietkey voi Arial font de danh 1 doan van, sau do dung VPS voi Tahoma font de danh 1 doan van khac. Sau khi dua len website thi doan van trong Vietkey khong the read duoc trong khi doan van cua VPS thi okay Ca hai loai font la unicode het thi phai ? nhung toi khong hieu tai sao ? khong le E5 khong recognize loai font va tu dong nap khi doc trang web
?

DAP1:
Go tieng Viet bang chuong trinh go nao (Vietkey hay VPS...) khong anh huong den viec hien thi. Khi doc quan trong la font tuong ung da duoc cai vao may hay chua va font mac dinh khai bao cua trinh duyet la gi. Thi du: font khai bao trong trang Web la Arial nhung font default trong IE la font khac thi van khong hien thi dung tieng Viet.?

DAP2: haihau@hn.vnn.vn
- Tui da download VPSKey ve chay thu de go unicode nhung hinh nhu no khong go duoc kieu telex (khong go dau vao cuoi tu duoc ma phai go ngay sau ki tu chua dau). Vi vay van khoai Vietkey hon.
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From: dshuahoangkhai@yahoo.com
Toi dang su dung Unicode . No rat tien loi neu windows ho tro Unicode moi thu chu Viet deu viet va doc de dang ,su dung chinh font cua windows. Dac biet khi dung chung voi Vietkey ( sofware tieng Viet nho gon va hieu qua ) ta co the tuy thich go tieng Viet theo kieu cua minh vd: Telex chan han.
Tuy nhien toi co mot tro ngai khi su dung . Toi co mot nguoi ban o USA khi goi Email nguoi ban khi doc duoc khi khong.Tai sao? . Co phai do toi cau hinh Outlook Express khong dung . Lam on chi cho toi cach giai quyet thich hop. Xin cam on! dskhai

DAP: haihau@hn.vnn.vn
- Neu cac ban goi mail unicode theo dang Plain text nhu trong hop thu thi bat buoc phai chon SEND AS UNICODE neu muon nguoi khac doc duoc con neu goi cho ban be thi nen gui theo dang Rich text sau do chon SEND AS IS thi nguoi nhan doc de dang hon.
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From: Lnkhoi@hcm.vnn.vn
That su font Unicode rat hay, dep va tha^?m my~. Nhung van chua pho bien vi`:
+ File ca`i dat qua' lon, ta?i ve rat mat thoi gian. (gan 4MB)
+ Da phan moi nguoi chua quen
Neu co' 1 file ca`i dat chi? gom Arial ma` thoi thi` dung luong file ta?i ve se nho? hon rat nhieu.=> chi? can dap ung o muc toi thieu la` doc duoc ma thoi. Luc do' moi van de se duoc giai quyet.
Khong the chap nhan 1 viec la` muon xem 1 website na`o do' ma phai bo? thoi gian va` tien ra de download gan 4MB font Unidode ma` chua he biet noi dung cua website do ra sao.

DAP: De giai quyet van de ban neu, Website LH da phan ra tung loai font Unicode rieng de nguoi dung tai cho nhe. Ban co the tai font VN Unicode va cac bang ma khac tai dia chi http://www.tlnet.com.vn/weblh/andi/taifonvn.htm .Co the tai tron goi nhieu font hay tung loai font theo nhu cau.
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From: temely@yahoo.com
Doi voi cac ban muon viet chu tieng Viet, dac biet la voi font unicode hoac cac font khac, co the dung phan mem VPSKEYS 4.1 (1230 KB), do Hoi Chuyen Gia VN tai Hoa Ky (VPS) bien soan, download hoan toan free tai :
http://www.hcgvn.net/software/
hoac la : (cho he dieu hanh Windows 98)
http://www.hcgvn.net/software/win98/index.htm
Khi dung lan dau tien, vao phan OPTIONS va roi KY THUAT de chinh font muon go. Phan mem nay cung co the hoan chuyen cac bang ma tieng Viet khac nhau (vao phan HOAN CHUYEN, tot nhat la copy vo WORD roi hay hoan chuyen ho so). Co phan TOC KY va sua loi chinh ta. Diem dac biet cua VPSKEYS la hoan toan free, dung no, ban se khong co mac cam pham toi nhu khi dung cac ban da crack de go tieng Viet khac.
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From: kpham2@erols.com
Gui cac ban,
Toi o My, rat vui la o VN cac ban dang nhanh chong su dung font Unicode. Toi rat thich Unicode vi no se lam cho nguoi Viet muon dung Web pages se do kho^? di nhieu vi trong luc nay co qua nhieu bang ma, tieu chuan Vietnamese fonts, phuc tap, rac roi vo cung, nhat la doi voi nhung nguoi lon tuoi hay it hieu biet ve computer. Mong sao Unicode se duoc cac ban tre o Vn ung ho manh me hon de no mau chong tro thanh chuan cho tieng Viet tren cac Websites cung nhu cac applications tren Windows cung nhu Linux, Unix..
Toi gap mot so kho khan khi doc cac trang Web (IE5.0 & Netscape 4.01 under WINDOWS 95) dung Unicode, chang han nhu trang cua Le Hoan, phai mat nhieu thoi gian de giai quyet. Nay lam duoc roi toi muon noi trinh tu cho cac ban ro de tranh cac loi tuong tu va tiet kiem thi gio.
(Luc nay ma dung Windows 95 thi hoi cham tien phai khong cac ban, nhung toi thay chua co nhu cau upgrade len Windows Me or Windows 2000, va lai phai mua computer moi, ton kem lam. Toi nghi rang nhieu ban o VN cung dang trong truong hop nhu toi. Mong dong gop cua toi se giup cho cac ban dong canh ngo).
Sau khi toi cai dat vao may toi cac fonts Unicode nhu Verdana, Times New Roman, Microsoft Sans Seriff. tu Webpage cua Le Hoan., toi khoi dong (restart) Windows 95 va IE5.0 de doc trang Web, chon mot font Unicode (nhu Times New Roman), chon Encoding la Unicode (UTF-8), nhung chu Viet van khong hien ra dung. Toi tim mai van khong biet minh sai dieu gi. Mot luc sau moi biet rang sau khi toi bam nut "Fonts" de chon mot font Unicode (chang han Times New Roman hay Verdana...) va click OK, toi CON PHAI nhan nut "Accessibility" (nam tren cung panel voi nut Fonts) va chon "Ignore font styles specified on Web pages" sau do click OK. Phai lam vay moi doc duoc Web page ( neu toi muon font chu duoc lon hon cho de doc thi lai phai vao tro lai "Accessibility" va chon "Ignore font SIZES specified on Web pages").
Do la voi IE5.0, con voi Netscape 4.01, toi cung gap kho khan tuong tu. Sau khi toi cai dat cac phong chu Unicode vao may roi, toi khoi dong Netscape, chon Edit, roi Preferences, roi Font, chon mot font Unicode (chang han nhu Times New Roman), click OK. Roi tu main menu, toi chon View, Encoding roi Unicode(UTF-8). Nhung toi van khong doc duoc chu Viet. Thi ra toi da khong chon "Use my default fonts, overriding document-specified fonts". Sau khi toi chon nut do roi, trang Web hien len voi tieng Viet rat dep.
Noi tom lai, neu cac ban dung Windows 95 hoac Windows 98. Cac ban nen theo cac buoc sau day de doc duoc cac trang Web voi Unicode.
Buoc 1. Cai dat vao may cac font theo dung tieu chuan Unicode nhu Arial, Times New Roman, Microsoft Sands Seriff, Verdana....Bac co the lay cac fonts tu trang Web cua Le Hoan hay tu dia chi http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack. Luu y la co the ban da co cac font nay tren may roi nhung chung khong theo tieu chuan Unicode nen dung khong duoc. (Neu la Windows 98 SE (Second Edition) thi ban khong can phai cai dat lai cac fonts noi tren, vi cac fonts di kem voi Windows 98 SE da duoc trang bi dung tieu chuan Unicode roi!, khoe qua phai khong cac ban)
Buoc 2.
Neu ban dung IE5, IE5.5..
- Vao Tools, roi Internet options, roi Fonts, sau do chon mot trong cac font Unicode tren (chang han Times New Roman). Click OK. Sau do chon Accessiblity (nam cung panel voi nut Fonts) va chon "Ignore font styles specified on Web pages". Click OK.
- Sau do tro ve IE main menu, chon View, roi Encoding, chon More.., roi chon Unicode(UTF-8).
Neu ban dung Netscape 4.0 and later..
- vao Edit, roi Preferences, roi Font. sau do chon mot trong cac font Unicode tren (chang han Times New Roman). Roi chon "Ignore font sizes specified on Web pages") tren cung panel.
- Tro ve Netscape main menu, chon View, roi Encoding, roi chon Unicode(UTF-8).
Neu cac ban lam dung trinh tu tren, ban se doc duoc tieng Viet duoi dang Unicode. Tren day la kinh nghiem cua toi, neu co thieu sot, xin cac ban bo sung them de giup nhung nguoi moi dung cam thay de dang va tien loi khi tiep xuc voi Unicode.
Long Live Unicode!!! Kevin Pham
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From: kaline@vol.vnn.vn
     Xin loi cac ban truoc vi toi la nguoi moi su dung Font Unicode chua quen nen chi thay nhuoc diem ma chua thay duoc uu diem, neu co gi khong dung xin huong dan dum:
       Sau khi su dung font Unicode thi toi thay co mot vai nhuoc diem xay ra:
 1- Muon doc duoc Font Unicode thi phai chon UTF-8, nhung Font khac phai chon lai.
 2- Khi mo UTF-8 thi khong in duoc khi su dung Windows 97 va 98.
 3- Doi luc khong doc duoc chu nao het mac du da mo UTF-8.
 4- WebEye chua ho tro duoc cho Font Unicode nen rat bat tien khi doc thu.
 5- Vi Font chua thong dung nen nhieu nguoi rat ngai khi doc thu co dung font Unicode (so bi Virus)
    Xin duoc noi len y kien rieng cua toi la nen su dung cach danh VIQR neu cac ban muon xac dinh su suy nghi cua minh bang tieng Viet, vi voi cach danh nay chung ta co the goi di bat ky dau tren the gioi ma khong so bi bien thanh ma~ khac.
    Tren day chi la y kien rieng cua toi thoi, khong co y gi khac, neu ban nao thay duoc uu diem cua Font Unicode thi xin chi giao cho nhung nguoi moi su dung nhu toi cung tham khao. Cam on cac ban da doc thu nay.


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